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Old Mar 05, 2006, 08:19 AM // 08:19   #21
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i love this build, my man. it seems very solid. BTW is there any way this would fly in say....PvP or possibly GvG? just wondering so i can try to convince my guild leader to let me try this one out
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42   #22
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i love this build, my man. it seems very solid. BTW is there any way this would fly in say....PvP or possibly GvG? just wondering so i can try to convince my guild leader to let me try this one out
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but I dont think it will work against anything that has interupts
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Old Mar 05, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #23
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but I dont think it will work against anything that has interupts
Oh, I would like to add for everyone that with the Imps near you, you can take on a few Seige Ice Golems at a time with this. If Aura dosen't cover your health (as Seiges will take health down a tincy, tiny, uber bit at a time) - use Troll Ugent.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 09:54 AM // 09:54   #24
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I tried the ice imps near Grotto, and got worn down by the Pinesoul boss despite all the armor. Ugh.

Probably I didn't play it right. Maybe not enough Troll Unguent or something ...
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04   #25
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I tried the ice imps near Grotto, and got worn down by the Pinesoul boss despite all the armor. Ugh.

Probably I didn't play it right. Maybe not enough Troll Unguent or something ...
Can't really work it around that area, have to stick outside Ice Caves of Sorrow and what have you.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 04:13 PM // 16:13   #26
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I tried the ice imps near Grotto, and got worn down by the Pinesoul boss despite all the armor. Ugh.

Probably I didn't play it right. Maybe not enough Troll Unguent or something ...
Pinesoul boss? I cant remember seeing a Pinesoul boss there there was an Ice imp boss but I just leave him, use him to recharge your energy a bit faster when theres only a few left then just leave him.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 06:09 PM // 18:09   #27
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nice build...now if only I wasn't too lazy to go up to the cave in Mineral Springs.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #28
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nice build...now if only I wasn't too lazy to go up to the cave in Mineral Springs.
Who ever said you had to go up to Mineral Springs? There are alot there too, yes, but there are alot outside of Ice Caves of Sorrow along with Seige Ice Golems.

If you aggro and pull up (over the little hill there) a few golems, you'll continously get energy from the Imps while attacking the Seige Golems (who'll do (with all 3 armors on (Kin, AoE, OF) a max of 2 dmg each, which the Aura of Rest covers easily, if not use Troll). Seiges seem to enjoy dropping Summit related items (tho I've not got anything 'rare' yet from besides a Water Staff and a couple other minor things like that).

This build does take time to use and farm. To get the Ice Imps, Seige Golems takes about 15 minutes, sometimes 20.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #29
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Who ever said you had to go up to Mineral Springs? There are alot there too, yes, but there are alot outside of Ice Caves of Sorrow along with Seige Ice Golems.

If you aggro and pull up (over the little hill there) a few golems, you'll continously get energy from the Imps while attacking the Seige Golems (who'll do (with all 3 armors on (Kin, AoE, OF) a max of 2 dmg each, which the Aura of Rest covers easily, if not use Troll). Seiges seem to enjoy dropping Summit related items (tho I've not got anything 'rare' yet from besides a Water Staff and a couple other minor things like that).

This build does take time to use and farm. To get the Ice Imps, Seige Golems takes about 15 minutes, sometimes 20.
Yes mineral springs cause of the IDS...of course you can use it to farm elsewhere like posted earlier in the thread...any farm build can be suited for plenty of other areas that's a given. Just implying I would use it for Mineral Springs for IDS like others probably will and already have.
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Old Mar 06, 2006, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #30
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What do you all think we could change to better our selves agaisnt say Sand Elementals? I'd really like to tackle the ones outside of Heroes but I haven't managed a way yet and what not...
Obsidian Flesh doesn't defend against Shock or Aftershock (except in the small AL boost), so this is not the right build for Sand Elementals.

Against Sand Elementals, just pick your favorite high energy build, with self-healing from at least Aura and maybe also Ether Renewal, and outdamage them.

That said, I've had OK luck taking them down with a double-energy-glyph build and hence no real self-healing ...
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Old Mar 14, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45   #31
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Who ever said you had to go up to Mineral Springs? There are alot there too, yes, but there are alot outside of Ice Caves of Sorrow along with Seige Ice Golems.

If you aggro and pull up (over the little hill there) a few golems, you'll continously get energy from the Imps while attacking the Seige Golems (who'll do (with all 3 armors on (Kin, AoE, OF) a max of 2 dmg each, which the Aura of Rest covers easily, if not use Troll). Seiges seem to enjoy dropping Summit related items (tho I've not got anything 'rare' yet from besides a Water Staff and a couple other minor things like that).

This build does take time to use and farm. To get the Ice Imps, Seige Golems takes about 15 minutes, sometimes 20.
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Jus t alittle modification to this, rather than taking a +20% enchanting staff, take a +20% enchanting sword or axe, and also a -2 damage while enchanted (event better would be (-2-2 and you shoudl take 0 damage almost constantly.

EDIT: just tried this pout, here was the result:


as you can see you dont even need to have armour of earth up to be takign 0 damage with a -2 shield.

+ the energy boos storm chaser gives you is phenomanal (but only against enemies whose standard attacks are elemental)

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Old Mar 14, 2006, 05:19 PM // 17:19   #32
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Jus t alittle modification to this, rather than taking a +20% enchanting staff, take a +20% enchanting sword or axe, and also a -2 damage while enchanted (event better would be (-2-2 and you shoudl take 0 damage almost constantly.

EDIT: just tried this pout, here was the result:


as you can see you dont even need to have armour of earth up to be takign 0 damage with a -2 shield.

+ the energy boos storm chaser gives you is phenomanal (but only against enemies whose standard attacks are elemental)

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Nice...i was thinking the same thing and was looking for the collectors -2 shield. Anyone know where one can be found?
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Old Mar 14, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50   #33
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There si no collectors shield while enchanted, and the while in a stance one is for 5 bleached shells form sonmewhere so is fairly expensive. I picked my -2 while enchanted shield up from gwguru auction for 1k, and it also had +1 to erath magic chance :O

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Old Mar 14, 2006, 10:04 PM // 22:04   #34
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there is one -

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Location: In the northwest corner of Mamnoon Lagoon next to Hadasha the Artisan
Collecting: 5 Ancient Eyes

Crimson Carapace Shield Armor 12 8 Tactics Health +45 (while enchanted)
Received damage -2 (while enchanted)

I never thought of that nice one you dont need the 8 Tactics for it to work?
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Old Mar 14, 2006, 10:17 PM // 22:17   #35
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you need the tactics for the armour boost, not for the mods.

And i hadnt thought of not getting a max defense one ^^, (but i prefer my one with +1 to earth magic anyway )

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Old Mar 15, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06   #36
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I can't believe how expensive the -2stance -2enchanted shields are. dang 60k is knida steep!
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47   #37
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Pardon me but is the only place to get a IDS @ Citadel?
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Old Apr 24, 2006, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #38
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um I am the poster of the thread Im farming them exactly the same a the Ice Imps, just I take a little more damage from the Titans. Ive managed 6 at once but it was close, 3 I find I can take without a problem, unless I miss my timing. Im farming the ones outside of LA
I just got the titan quests, so I'm ready to try this.

Can you kill Wild Growths with that build? Or do you have to confine yourself to the elementalists?

Being constantly poisoned would seem to put a stress on the self-healing, and even more to the point it can be hard outdamaging Troll Unguent on a high-level ranger.

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Old Apr 26, 2006, 12:31 PM // 12:31   #39
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there is one -

Vargil the White
Location: In the northwest corner of Mamnoon Lagoon next to Hadasha the Artisan
Collecting: 5 Ancient Eyes

Crimson Carapace Shield Armor 12 8 Tactics Health +45 (while enchanted)
Received damage -2 (while enchanted)

I never thought of that nice one you dont need the 8 Tactics for it to work?
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You dont need any tactics for the bonuses of collectors shields, however something i recently found ou ton guildwiki, is that non-collectors shields are better if you dont meet teh requirements.

For example my gold shield al 16 with -2 enchanted and 20% +1 to earth, also gives me a base armour level increase of 8, whereas your collectors shield will only increase your armour level 3.

My advice is, go out and get a gold -2 shield ^_^

(and to the person asking whether you can get an ids with this, you can easily kill ice imps, the problem is more when you try to actually run to the cave

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